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| Corky also needs to pass a physical. |
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Grateful Cane
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| Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:46 am Post subject: |
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| When do you go to the doctor? |
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SoCalHorn
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| Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Gung-Ho 6 wrote: |
| Corky also needs to pass a physical. |
the guy hasn't been the same since:
or maybe it was the crackdown on roids. |
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| Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| no, i think it's psychological...that was his favorite helmet. |
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Grateful Cane
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| Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 12:00 am Post subject: |
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Booo!
6 = Corky |
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Dodgers sign  3B Norihiro Nakamura to a 1 year/$500,000 minor league contract:
losangeles.dodgers.mlb.co...&fext=.jsp
He's a pretty weird looking dude, I'll see if I can find a picture. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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With a haircut like that, he can't go wrong. |
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After months of disappointment and days of waiting, the Detroit Tigers are poised to sign the big-name free agent they've coveted all winter.
Baseball sources said Friday that Magglio Ordonez, a four-time All-Star outfielder who has played the last seven years with the Chicago White Sox, will likely become a Tiger in the next few days. The deal is expected to be for five years, for approximately $75 million, and it would include clauses to protect the Tigers if the left knee injury that ended Ordonez's 2004 season keeps him from playing in the future.
Ordonez played in only 52 games last year, and his knee was enough of a concern to scare off most other teams. Tigers owner Mike Ilitch, desperate to land a big-name player after being turned down by Troy Glaus, Carl Pavano and many others, agreed to make the five-year offer that was believed to be significantly longer than any other offer Ordonez received. |
They gave him Beltran money. hahaha
hahaha
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Dirty Hawley
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| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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After months of disappointment and days of waiting, the Detroit Tigers are poised to sign the big-name free agent they've coveted all winter.
Baseball sources said Friday that Magglio Ordonez, a four-time All-Star outfielder who has played the last seven years with the Chicago White Sox, will likely become a Tiger in the next few days. The deal is expected to be for five years, for approximately $75 million, and it would include clauses to protect the Tigers if the left knee injury that ended Ordonez's 2004 season keeps him from playing in the future.
Ordonez played in only 52 games last year, and his knee was enough of a concern to scare off most other teams. Tigers owner Mike Ilitch, desperate to land a big-name player after being turned down by Troy Glaus, Carl Pavano and many others, agreed to make the five-year offer that was believed to be significantly longer than any other offer Ordonez received. |
They gave him Beltran money. hahaha
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Does the contract state that if Ordonez gets hurt they don't owe him anything but a base salary or something? If it's something along those lines, I don't think it's that bad of a deal. He made 14 million for the White Sox last year, and would be getting a base raise of 1 million for the next 5 years.
If you go down the list in a comparison to Beltran and Ordonez
Contact - Ordonez
Power - Ordonez
Getting On Base - Slight Edge to Ordonez
Speed - Beltran
Fielding - Beltran
I'm just saying that if they didn't have an injury clause, that would be a foolish amount of money to give someone. However, with that clause, Ordonez is a better hitter than Beltran and about on par as a player goes.
Maybe I'm missing something here? Wouldn't be the first time. |
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The Tigers are only covered if Ordonez goes on the DL with a left knee injury.
If he dislocates his left ankle, or tears his right rotator cuff, or breaks his neck, Detroit is on the hook for the full $75 million. |
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Pahdz
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well that could happen to anyone
mags has always been healthy before last year. |
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According to Newsday, the Tigers are close to signing Magglio Ordonez to a five-year, $75 million contract.
Gulp. If the report is true, the good news is that the deal is voidable if Ordonez spends a certain amount of time on the DL with a left knee injury. Still, $15 million per year through age 35? For a player who has never led the league in a major category (sac flies in 2000!) and has been helped by his home park throughout his career? That's just too much money.
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Magglio Ordonez's deal with the Tigers will be worth up to $105 million over seven years and includes a clause that will allow it to be voided after 2005 if a reoccurrence of his left knee problem lands him on the DL for at least 25 days.
The AP story would seem to indicate that the Tigers aren't protected from knee problems in 2006 or beyond. Under the terms of the deal, Ordonez gets a $6 million signing bonus, $6 million this year, $15 million in 2006, $12 million in 2007, $15 million in 2008 and $18 million in 2009. Detroit has a $15 million option for 2010 with a $3 million buyout and a $15 million option for 2011 with no buyout. The option years would become guaranteed at $18 million in 2010 and $15 million in 2011 if he has 135 starts or 540 plate appearances in the previous season or 270 starts or 1,080 plate appearances in the previous two seasons. |
| Pahdz wrote: |
| well that could happen to anyone |
That's the point. The injury clause is so limited to the point that it's almost irrelevant.
Last offseason, Vlad Guererro got 70 million over five years. A few months ago, the Dodgers gave JD Drew 55 million over five years. But Detroit decides overpays by at least $20 million for a player on the wrong side of 30 with a potentially serious knee injury that your contract doesn't completely protect you from.
Boras never ceases to amaze. The Tigers were essentially bidding against themselves, and he still manages to humiliate them. |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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The Tigers are only covered if Ordonez goes on the DL with a left knee injury.
If he dislocates his left ankle, or tears his right rotator cuff, or breaks his neck, Detroit is on the hook for the full $75 million. |
They gave Bobby Higginson a ton of money and this is the last year of that contract. Hopefully he starts off hot so they can ship him. I've never seen so many lazy fly balls to left field in my life... that is all Higgy can hit.
Ordonez is a good sign.. a little over paid but if they have a clause for the one injury that will protect them. Now that he's signed he will be hurt in spring training and done for the year... |
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